Talk:October 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran
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Highlighting blatant (and ironic) NPOV violation and inconsistency between this article and Iran’s attack article
[edit]In the October 2024 Iranian strikes against Israel, the article writes (definitely not in the lead) about the israeli military censorship following the attack:
In some cases, the IDF censor barred Israeli media from publishing the exact locations of missile impacts and the extent of the damage.
while in this article, the article is writing (within the lead) about the Iranian military censorship:
Iran quickly aimed to downplay the attacks, providing minimal coverage and threatened to hand out prison sentences to civilians who shared evidence of the strikes to "hostile" media. This was possibly done to "save face" and prevent further escalation.
Stephan rostie (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. This is very blatant bias Genabab (talk) 20:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- This part seems to be supported by major RS, so disagree Galamore (talk) 20:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Well considering that the cited news source is itself politically biased, whats the point ? It is equivalent to Citing almayadeen regarding israel’s attack, it is just the opposite extreme. Does that mean we on wikipedia should follow the same blatantly biased language and inconsistency ? WP:NPOV ?
- I also recall coming across a policy called “rights correct wrong” or “right greats wrong” that has something to do with it, if someone knows it please send. Stephan rostie (talk) 21:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- This?. Also, can you point out any contradiction in the two quotes you gave? — hako9 (talk) 22:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- And why not use just use WP:RSP wherever possible. Then we don't have to debate about a source being biased. — hako9 (talk) 22:06, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- NPOV isn't about whether sources are reliable. Bitspectator ⛩️ 00:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- This part seems to be supported by major RS, so disagree Galamore (talk) 20:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- agreed Mason7512 (talk) 18:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
None of the sources refer to F-35. Mentions should be grounded or removed.
[edit]the three (Including the embed card imaged) places in the article that mention F-35 use ref number 18 - https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-lebanon-gaza-war-10-27-24#cm2rpp3it00053b6mskybhun8 this source DOES NOT mention F-35 anywhere.
Since when does this prestigious institution publish inuendo and hyperbole, when plenty of ground-truth sources exist? Refael Ackermann (talk) 22:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Khameini Hebrew X (Twitter) has been reactivated
[edit]Please change the Reactions section to reflect this.
jpost.com/breaking-news/article-827259 208.98.222.101 (talk) 03:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Independent verification for the S-300 claims
[edit]Is there any independent verification by RS for the claims that all of Iran's air defenses including all of its s-300 have been destroyed? Otherwise this should not be given the prominent weight it is being given in the lead.VR (Please ping on reply) 02:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Israeli retaliation leak into this article
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- To not merge, given that the prosecution/leak warrants separate discuss and meets WP:GNG. Klbrain (talk) 20:34, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
A leak of two documents, though important, feels unworthy of a standalone article. Suggest a trim to encyclopedia-level content, and merge to here or another appropriate article. -- 18:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC) AtomCrusher 18:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose merge, at least to here. I think it fits awkwardly on this page as is. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Two separate standalone topics, and the leak and subsequent prosecution meets WP:GNG in its own right. Longhornsg (talk) 20:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
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